Victorious Nations/Hall of Honor

[archaeolept]

Jim. As an experienced DomIII vet you subbed into an explicitly noob only game, taking over the leading position, and then prevailed against a bunch of staling nations. Sure, subbing in is fine, since they needed someone, but being a vet in a nub game would seem to disqualify this as any sort of real win.

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by archaeolept

Jim. As an experienced DomIII vet you subbed into an explicitly noob only game, taking over the leading position, and then prevailed against a bunch of staling nations. Sure, subbing in is fine, since they needed someone, but being a vet in a nub game would seem to disqualify this as any sort of real win.

If you look at the time in which I accepted the sub, I hardly see how I could be considered a vet. In fact, if you look at page 8 of this thread, the -first- game that I joined on this forum, did not come to a close until the week -after- I entered this game. Thus, 4 months ago when I joined Divine Might, I am quite certain that I met the criteria for the game itself.

Honestly this just feels like a vaguely hypocritical, personally biased observation on your part. Most of the real vets (people who have been here more than a year, that excludes me) say that this Hall of Fame and whatnot are just for fun, because the relative level of competition between games cannot be quantified. It's obvious that you are not on some sort of crusade to improve the veracity of the list, it's just that you don't like me.

Anyway, regardless of what point in time anyone would have started considering me a "vet" rather than a "newbie", I can't imagine that point was reached at any time before I joined this game, so please find something else to do. I'm quite sure that everyone else would rather that you and I didn't interact - something that I am most happy to oblige them with, if you can bring yourself to do the same (at least until such point as we regain some measure of respect for one another).

[Lingchih]

Originally Posted by archaeolept

Jim. As an experienced DomIII vet you subbed into an explicitly noob only game, taking over the leading position, and then prevailed against a bunch of staling nations. Sure, subbing in is fine, since they needed someone, but being a vet in a nub game would seem to disqualify this as any sort of real win.

I also subbed into a noob game, by the request of the other players. I will probably win it (if it does not just peter out due to disinterest), but I'm not sure I will count it as a win here.

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by Lingchih

I also subbed into a noob game, by the request of the other players. I will probably win it (if it does not just peter out due to disinterest), but I'm not sure I will count it as a win here.

Well and like I said, the first game that I joined here was not even concluded until a week after my first post in the Divine_Might game thread, so even if I was walking the line between n00b and something greater, I fail to see how I could be a vet before even finishing a single game.

Certainly if I were to sub into such a game now, it would be only to avoid the entire game being ruined by a powerful nation (hardly dominant, they were large, but had 10k pop in the capital, NO research, and NO site searching done yet) being turned to AI. I'd basically just do fast, minimal turns, and not invade anyone - just to help out.

Anyway, I suppose I'd be willing to call it a half-win - obviously from my last post in the game thread, I was waffling a bit. But I did put a lot of effort into the position, and ultimately felt it was worth something. And yes, I can post the last turn of the game if anyone wishes, since there was a comment that the "game" didn't end naturally, nor did every existing player "technically concede". Most of the games I've ever been in ended without "a true god ascending" in game, and usually with just a few of the stronger nations conceding in thread, and the silence of the rest echoing a lack of overt objections in the game ending.....

God this whole thing seems silly.