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March 29th, 2009, 08:21 PM
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Re: Armoured Car Tactics
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But first they have to get there  Rate of speed is important because warfare is inherently geographic in nature. The fundamental military problem in steel panthers is a space-time problem, as Nathan Bedford Forrest succinctly observed "getting there firstest with the mostest." For bushwhacking a platoon of infantry, a platoon of infantry would be best  but against the side/rear armor of an AFV a swift and well armed scout car is the choice that produces the goods
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I like your anaolgy of calvary in the Civil War 
Being a CW buff.
The problem is here in modern warfare it does not work.
One pop or two from a ATG then the charge is done! over and done with and altough a valant effort just a big blunder.
Hope your not using 19th century tactics in 20th century warfare.
Remember the poles charging with lances on tanks?
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March 29th, 2009, 08:48 PM
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But first they have to get there  Rate of speed is important because warfare is inherently geographic in nature. The fundamental military problem in steel panthers is a space-time problem, as Nathan Bedford Forrest succinctly observed "getting there firstest with the mostest." For bushwhacking a platoon of infantry, a platoon of infantry would be best  but against the side/rear armor of an AFV a swift and well armed scout car is the choice that produces the goods
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I like your anaolgy of calvary in the Civil War 
Being a CW buff.
The problem is here in modern warfare it does not work.
One pop or two from a ATG then the charge is done! over and done with and altough a valant effort just a big blunder.
Hope your not using 19th century tactics in 20th century warfare.
Remember the poles charging with lances on tanks?[/quote]
You misunderestimate me  I'm just saying the player who gets to the objective first with his forces intact is then able to defend with an improved chance of success. I'm certainly not advocating civil war tactics on the modern battlefield.
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March 29th, 2009, 09:57 PM
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Re: Armoured Car Tactics
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But first they have to get there  Rate of speed is important because warfare is inherently geographic in nature. The fundamental military problem in steel panthers is a space-time problem, as Nathan Bedford Forrest succinctly observed "getting there firstest with the mostest." For bushwhacking a platoon of infantry, a platoon of infantry would be best  but against the side/rear armor of an AFV a swift and well armed scout car is the choice that produces the goods
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I like your anaolgy of calvary in the Civil War 
Being a CW buff.
The problem is here in modern warfare it does not work.
One pop or two from a ATG then the charge is done! over and done with and altough a valant effort just a big blunder.
Hope your not using 19th century tactics in 20th century warfare.
Remember the poles charging with lances on tanks?[/quote]
You misunderestimate me  I'm just saying the player who gets to the objective first with his forces intact is then able to defend with an improved chance of success. I'm certainly not advocating civil war tactics on the modern battlefield.
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I know what you mean by getting there first!
It does force them to come out thier holes and Fight!on your grounds 
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March 30th, 2009, 12:20 AM
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Re: Armoured Car Tactics
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Remember the poles charging with lances on tanks?
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Nobody did that actually, the cavalry attacked an infantry column and when the presence of tanks was revealed, the shortest route to forest and thus to safety simply led through the Panzer column for a part of the Cavalry force 
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March 30th, 2009, 12:52 AM
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Re: Armoured Car Tactics
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Remember the poles charging with lances on tanks?
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Nobody did that actually, the cavalry attacked an infantry column and when the presence of tanks was revealed, the shortest route to forest and thus to safety simply led through the Panzer column for a part of the Cavalry force 
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That's i've read it was lance's on tanks whether or not it's true:
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Where did you hear that Marek?
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March 30th, 2009, 06:36 AM
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Re: Armoured Car Tactics
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Where did you hear that Marek?
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Various sources, but Weakipedia has pretty good account
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Krojanty
Apparently my memory failed me, as there were even no tanks involved, just armored cars.
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March 30th, 2009, 06:41 PM
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Re: Armoured Car Tactics
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Where did you hear that Marek?
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Various sources, but Weakipedia has pretty good account
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Krojanty
Apparently my memory failed me, as there were even no tanks involved, just armored cars.
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I stand corrected,
Apparrently,I confused "Armour" as meaning tanks 
The poles weren't stupid just using what they had availible.
And I'm sure they didn't just charge the armour just the fleshy elements perhaps..
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March 30th, 2009, 01:01 AM
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Re: Armoured Car Tactics
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Nobody did that actually, the cavalry attacked an infantry column and when the presence of tanks was revealed, the shortest route to forest and thus to safety simply led through the Panzer column for a part of the Cavalry force 
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Your take on the battle is more logical 
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March 30th, 2009, 02:09 PM
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Re: Armoured Car Tactics
I heard something also, but don't recall where, where they talked to some Polish vets, and they said it was nothing more than propaganda by the Germans to make them look stupid, as indeed it would be stupid to deliberately attack like that.
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