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June 16th, 2009, 06:50 PM
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Re: inf assault
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Then why between 3 and 4 the APC gets damaged or destroyed?
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As said previosly Suhiirs powers of observation seem good to me (FOO training, recon or a sniper rifle if you can hit stuff might have used those skills better)
Without seeing or a more blow by blow acount how are we supposed to answer that?
If the squad is succesful as said its still unpinned so concievably can keep assaulting till run out of shots though I have never seen that. Twice maybe which goes back to my are there 2 squads? Multiple vehicles could concievably be taken out if Ranger Eng with a DC due to splash.
Ask your opponent after its over but I have to ask why after finding infantry the hard way are you piling more units in to there death knowing he probably has friends.
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June 16th, 2009, 07:21 PM
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Re: inf assault
I just ran a very quick test game. BMP VS single Ranger squads. In almost every case, the BMP runs up to the ranger, The ranger op fires on the BMP, inf unloads and gets slaughtered then the ranger assaults the BMP killing it.
Very ugly for the Russians.
Re-ran with reg US squaddies - same results but a few more Russian infantry survived
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Last edited by PatG; June 16th, 2009 at 07:21 PM..
Reason: specified single ranger squads
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June 17th, 2009, 11:35 AM
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Re: inf assault
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I just ran a very quick test game. BMP VS single Ranger squads. In almost every case, the BMP runs up to the ranger, The ranger op fires on the BMP, inf unloads and gets slaughtered then the ranger assaults the BMP killing it.
Very ugly for the Russians.
Re-ran with reg US squaddies - same results but a few more Russian infantry survived
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Since the Rangers have better base experience and morale I'm not the least suprised they're more effective.
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June 17th, 2009, 01:11 PM
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Re: inf assault
Suhir,
Good analysis. The Rangers are real "bad boys". Given their higher than avg morale and experience they must be significantly more expensive than regular infantry?
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June 17th, 2009, 01:20 PM
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Re: inf assault
I agree that Suhiir's analysis is right on. What in reality would happen all at once is broken down into separate steps for game purposes.
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June 17th, 2009, 04:22 PM
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Re: inf assault
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Suhir,
Good analysis. The Rangers are real "bad boys". Given their higher than avg morale and experience they must be significantly more expensive than regular infantry?
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I'd have to do some unit analysis I can't do that the moment (not at home where I can actually look at or run WinSPMBT) but yes morale and experience do effect the unit cost.
Weather it effects it "significantly" is somwhat a matter of opinion.
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June 17th, 2009, 04:45 PM
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Re: inf assault
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Weather it effects it "significantly" is somwhat a matter of opinion.
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"Weather" ??
A "Ranger Squad" unit ( UC 111 ) would be roughly 15% more than an equivalent "infantry" ( UC 1 )unit and that's before the experience and morale modifiers Rangers have which would boost the actual game cost up even further bringing it up to approx 30% more than the same "infantry" unit with no special abilities and no experience and morale mods
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June 18th, 2009, 11:22 AM
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Re: inf assault
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Quote:
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Weather it effects it "significantly" is somwhat a matter of opinion.
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"Weather" ??
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Hey!
I'm a tech weenie not a spelling champ!
Yeah, yeah, yeah...use a spell checker...
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June 16th, 2009, 08:23 PM
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Re: inf assault
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but I have to ask why after finding infantry the hard way are you piling more units in to there death knowing he probably has friends.
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I have my reasons.
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June 17th, 2009, 04:50 AM
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Re: inf assault
well if you have your reasons send in a company. eventually they will overcome the ranger squad especially after they are out of AT-Weapons.
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