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Old June 28th, 2009, 11:17 PM

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In the original SP, Vehicles of the class scout DID get a searching bonus.
They searched at the same percentage as Infantry instead of as vehicles.
I don't know if that was changed.
Here is the source of the confusion. WinSPWW2/WinSPMBT, scouts have no extra spotting ability or ability to stay hidden (aside from that inherit with being a size 0 unit). In SPWaW, a similar competitive product, recon units do receive a 25% spotting bonus. Since many people play both games, a certain degree of confusion occurs.

While I don't know all the details, it seems that the development teams for both the WinSP games and the SPWaW game originally worked for one single company. That company was responsible for the original DOS version of the game. Somewhere along the line, creative differences or something along those lines created a split and two independent competitive businesses. Don and Andy know more about it than I do. The long and short of it is with two similar games, sometimes the line blurs a bit and it is difficult to remember which game does what when it comes to the little details.
So you are saying that scout VEHICLES are treated as ordinary vehicles in the Cammo games? In effect, there is no unit class of 'scout' in the Cammo group versions of SP. Why is that? After all, the three most important things in land warfare are recon, recon and recon.
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Old June 28th, 2009, 11:38 PM
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So you are saying that scout VEHICLES are treated as ordinary vehicles in the Cammo games? In effect, there is no unit class of 'scout' in the Cammo group versions of SP. Why is that? After all, the three most important things in land warfare are recon, recon and recon.
I would say its because of the way the vehicle is used that makes it scout, going slowly & observing. They get very marginal boosts to represent dedicated scouts are probably above average soldiers but thats it. How exactly does an identical vehicle say a jeep all of a sudden gain the ability to see better because its a scout than the standard one?
Dare I say you have only just realised so you must have thought they were doing okay but in fact its because you were using them in a scout role that you percieved they could see better.
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In the original SP, Vehicles of the class scout DID get a searching bonus.
They searched at the same percentage as Infantry instead of as vehicles.
I don't know if that was changed.
Here is the source of the confusion. WinSPWW2/WinSPMBT, scouts have no extra spotting ability or ability to stay hidden (aside from that inherit with being a size 0 unit). In SPWaW, a similar competitive product, recon units do receive a 25% spotting bonus. Since many people play both games, a certain degree of confusion occurs.

While I don't know all the details, it seems that the development teams for both the WinSP games and the SPWaW game originally worked for one single company. That company was responsible for the original DOS version of the game. Somewhere along the line, creative differences or something along those lines created a split and two independent competitive businesses. Don and Andy know more about it than I do. The long and short of it is with two similar games, sometimes the line blurs a bit and it is difficult to remember which game does what when it comes to the little details.
So you are saying that scout VEHICLES are treated as ordinary vehicles in the Cammo games? In effect, there is no unit class of 'scout' in the Cammo group versions of SP. Why is that? After all, the three most important things in land warfare are recon, recon and recon.
I can't answer the why part. It's just how they opted to set it up, I guess. All I know for sure is that is how it works. As Imp pointed out, they do come with a bit more experience so they would spot slightly better than the average size 0 unit but in the Cammo games, that's about it. The vehicle is nothing more than a quicker way to get to their scouting location. It would be nice to drive you jeep where you want to go and just bail out and take up a position on foot. Unfortunately, that doesn't work.
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