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Old May 3rd, 2010, 09:05 AM
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And niefel desperately needs any research they can get, so they will not spread skrattis around "just in case". Few key provinces could easily be defended, especially ones being bloodhunted or so, but with the size niefel tends to grow to, it's not easy or usually even possible to get a geared skratti werewolf into every prov.

And the werewolf form has mm3 too, at least in CBM.
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 09:30 AM

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Well, Skratti can't teleport, aren't stealthy (without ditching gear in wolf form), so you have to send them out to wait for raiders, you can't respond effectively.

Since they have to be out waiting they can be Mind Hunted. Your PD is useless, so if you've spread Skratti out, they can be hit by teams designed to kill them.

Actually Neifel Jarls are probably better for anti-raider duty, since they can cloud trapeze.
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And niefel desperately needs any research they can get, so they will not spread skrattis around "just in case". Few key provinces could easily be defended, especially ones being bloodhunted or so, but with the size niefel tends to grow to, it's not easy or usually even possible to get a geared skratti werewolf into every prov.

And the werewolf form has mm3 too, at least in CBM.
both of you point out at a mobility issue, which in my opinion can be solved by smart fort positioning which gives you a much faster reaction time. also even though Skrattis in Werewolf/Wolf form lose item slots you can use scouts to carry the items for them, and you should have plenty of scouts around if just to carry blood slaves from your labless blood hunting provinces into your labs... and having a handful of say Axes of Hate+Dusk Daggers in your lab preemptively in preparation for such raiding squads isn't such a bad idea, and if not raided will be used offensively later on so it isn't really wasted.

yes mind hunts can be a *****, but they are for many nations, nothing unique to Niefelheim... but Niefelheim has the Gygjas as well, and while not as useful as Skrattis they do have 52.5% to have S1 on them, less for S2 and even S3 very very rarely, so if you know there is an Astral power in the neighborhood, you might wanna get a few more Gygjas than usual.

so yes, obviously a very strong raiding blitz would be problematic to deal with, but that would go for anybody not just Niefelheim. I'm trying to say that Niefelheim isn't that more susceptible to raiders than other nations, and PD never really stops good thugs anyway...
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Expanding on the last comment:
Certainly skrattis can be equipped for anti-raiding duty. And they are generrally pretty good at it. But the fact remains that niefle's PD is porous, and subject to easy raiding.

Niefle makes the same numbers of commanders as other nations - which can be split among raid(antiraid), research, gem hunting, and forging, etc.

Equipping thugs (forging equipment) and then sending them out
on anti raid - are thugs that aren't being used to invade ME. And mages that aren't being used to research, or blood hunt.
And I'd much raither fight niefle on 'his' territory - than on mine.

IE., niefles armies are absolutely brutal - whether jarls, or popsicles. Dealing with one or two skrattis is a lot easier than dealing with 10 popsicles.. or 3-4 jarls.
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