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Old April 25th, 2011, 09:52 AM
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Soviet Light Trucks 3/4 ton (15 cwt)

The only light truck in the Soviet OOB is an AOP vehicle:

AOP Light Truck – unit 134
Crew: 4
Carry: 106
Speed: 12
Size: 3
Avail: 1930

1. Perhaps it should be size 2?

Additional Light Trucks

If you wanted to give the Soviet OOB a light truck, there's the GAZ-4 and GAZ-M415 pickup trucks (3/4 ton). The earlier GAZ-4 is smaller, a bit more utility than light truck, and may not carry as many men.
The GAZ-M415 may be the better choice.

GAZ-4 Pickup Truck 3/4 ton
Available: 1933
Speed: 90 Kmh
Drive: 4x2
Produced: 10,648
Size: 161 x 67 inches (size 2)

GAZ-4 source:
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gaz4.htm

GAZ-M415 Pickup Truck 3/4 ton
Available: 1939
Speed: 90 Kmh
Drive: 4x2
Produced: 8,000+
Size: 180 x 70 inches (size 2)

The GAZ-M415 was the pickup truck version of the ‘Emka’ Staff car.

Image of GAZ-M415


GAZ-M415 sources:
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gaz415.htm
http://www.bonanza.com/booths/McSim/...up_USSR_Ford_B

It may also make sense to adjust the AOP Light Truck (unit 134) to the same icon, speed, and size as the GAZ pickup truck.

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Old April 25th, 2011, 10:28 AM
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Soviet Medium GAZ Trucks

Pic of three GAZ


The truck body was the same for each of the three main versions, but the drivetrain was different:

GAZ-AA…... drive: 4x2
GAZ-AAA… drive: 6x4
GAZ-60……. drive: halftrack

The most common GAZ medium trucks were called GAZ-AA and GAZ-AAA, but the name has nothing to do with ‘anti-aircraft’ so would cause confusion.

Apart from unit class, unit 44 and 465 are identical in the game.

GAZ Truck...unit 44...Med Truck......carry 118...size 3...4x2
GAZ Truck...unit 465...Med Truck......carry 118...size 3...4x2
GAZ 60......unit 829...Med Half-track...carry 118...size 3...H-track

1. Could convert unit 465 into a 4WD (6x4) version (37,000 built) but the 6x4 wasn’t available until 1935, and both trucks are currently available from 1930 in the game; but this is probably not important. The Halftrack is available in 1939 which is correct.

2. Could rename them to:

GAZ Medium Truck…..…unit 44
GAZ Medium Truck 6x4…unit 465
GAZ-60 Med Halftrack..…unit 829

3. Unit 465 may be wrong unit class 23 (APC wheel)
4. Could create new icon/icons (all are 210x80 inches, but the tracks of GAZ-60 may make it a bit wider)

GAZ Medium Truck sources:
http://www.o5m6.de/gaz_aa.html
http://www.o5m6.de/gaz_aaa_1937.html
http://www.o5m6.de/gaz_60.html
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gazaa.htm
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gazaaa.htm
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gaz60.htm

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GAZ Icons (My icons are 1 pixel per 5 inches)
Could use open truck for 4x2
and covered truck for 6x4




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I'm wondering if is there an easy way to put your icons into the game?
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I'm wondering if is there an easy way to put your icons into the game?
Perhaps...

You could ask someone to post their shp files after they've been edited, that would be an easy way to add icons to the game. I may post some edited shp files, but not yet.

One of the problems is that soft vehicles from different nations sometimes share the same generic truck icon. So if you replace a generic icon with a nation specific icon, all the nations that used the original generic icon will now have the custom icon.



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Soviet ZiS Heavy Trucks

Picture of ZiS trucks


Current:
ZiS Truck....unit 45....carry 32...size 4...4x2.........spd 15
ZiS Truck ...unit 466...carry 24...size 4...4x2.........spd 12
ZiS 42.........unit 301...carry 18...size 3...Halftrack...spd 18

The three ZiS vehicles have an identical body, only the drivetrain and speed should be different (like the GAZ trucks but the ZiS are larger).

Top down picture of GAZ and ZiS trucks


Recommended changes highlighted:
ZiS-5 Heavy Truck......unit 45....carry 24...size 4...4x2........spd 60Kmh
ZiS-6 Heavy Truck......unit 466...carry 24...size 4...6x4........spd 55Kmh
ZiS 42 Hvy Halftrack...unit 301...carry 24...size 4...H-track... spd 45Kmh

ZiS Truck Unit 45
1. Could change name to ZiS-5 Heavy Truck (over 1,000,000 produced)
2. Could change carry from 32 to 24 (unless this causes OOB problems)
3. May want to tweak speed (ZiS-5 speed: 60Kmh)
4. Could create new icon (same icon as unit 466)
ZiS-5 size: 239 x 88 inches

ZiS-5 sources:
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/zis5s.htm

ZiS Truck Unit 466
1. Could change name to ZiS-6 Heavy Truck (21,239 produced)
2. Could change from 2WD to 4WD
3. Adjust speed (ZiS-6 speed: 55Kmh)
4. Could create new icon (same icon as unit 45)
ZiS-6 size: 239 x 88 inches

ZiS-6 sources:
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/zis6.htm
http://www.o5m6.de/zis_6.html

ZiS 42 Unit 301
1. Could change name to ZiS-42 Heavy Halftrack or ZiS-42 Halftrack (5,931 produced)
2. Could change carry from 18 to 24
3. Could change size from 3 to 4 (ZiS-42: 240 x 93 inches)
4. Could change speed (ZiS-42 speed: 45Kmh)
5. Could create new icon (same as icon as unit 45, 466 but with tracks)
ZiS-42 size: 240 x 93 inches

ZiS-42 sources:
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/zis42.htm

Additional Heavy Truck

The YaG-6 Heavy Truck may make a useful addition to the Soviet OOB because it would give the Soviets a truck that could carry about 32 men.
To avoid ‘carry 32’ OOB problems with unit 45, perhaps it’s possible to change unit 45 to a YaG-6, then create a new ZiS-5 with carry 24?

YaG-6 Heavy truck 5 ton
Made: 8,075
Available: 1932
Drive: 4x2
Size: 256 x 98 inches (size 5)
Speed: 40Kmh


YaG-6 Refs
http://www.o5m6.de/YaG-6.html
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/yag6.htm

Top down YaG-6


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Soviet Ammo Trucks and Barge Carrier


Soviet Ammo Trucks

Ammo Truck...unit 230...Light Ammo Truck..size 2...4x2...Avail until 12/41
Ammo Truck...unit 332...Med Ammo Truck...size 3...4x2...Avail from 1/42

The Soviets have two ammo trucks available. A size 2 available until Dec 1941, and a size 3 available from Jan 1942. Both ammo trucks are 2WD.

One possibility is to make both available for the whole war.

The size 2 could be a GAZ-M415 light truck, small and quite fast (about speed 22).
The size 3 could be a GAZ Medium Truck 6x4, a bit slower (speed 18) but 4WD.

Ammo Truck unit 230
Currently:
Available until 12/41
Size: 2
Speed: 15
Drive: 4x2
Crew 2

Possible changes:
1. Could make available until the end of the war, or 1946
2. Could give this unit a light truck icon.
Current icon looks like a size 4 truck.
Could use a GAZ-M415 light truck icon.
3. Could give this truck the GAZ-M415 speed of 90 Kmh


Ammo Truck unit 332
Currently:
Available from 1/42
Size: 3
Speed: 18
Drive: 4x2
Crew: 2

Possible changes:
1. Could make available from 1935
2. Could give this unit a medium truck icon.
Current icon looks like a size 5 truck.
Could use a GAZ Medium Truck icon.
The speed of this unit is already correct for a GAZ medium truck.
3. Could make this truck 4WD

This would give the Soviets a choice of ammo carrier: Small and quite fast; or medium size, a bit slower, but 4WD.

Barge Carrier unit 248
Currently:
Avail: 1/30
Size: 6
Speed: 10
Drive: 4x2
Crew: 6

Could make this Barge carrier a YaG-10, 8 ton, 6x4 truck.
The Yag-10 is a bit longer and narrower than the YaG-6.

The 8-ton YaG-10, built at the Yaroslavl state motor vehicle plant (»YaG« or »YaGAZ«) from 1931 on, was for long the heaviest truck of the Soviet Union.

YaG-10, 8 ton, 6x4
Available: 1931
Made: 333
Speed: 40kmh
Drive: 6x4
Size: 275 x 92 inches (about size 5)

Possible changes:

1. Adjust the speed to 40 Kmh
2. Change drive to 6x4
3. Change icon to the Yag-10
4. Change size to 5
5. Could change name to YaG-10 Barge Carrier

Yag-10 sources:
http://www.oldrussiancars.com/archives/1381
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaw...ucks_buses.htm
http://www.o5m6.de/YaG-10.html

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Aren't there Free Icon slots in the game? Where you can add your own icons and that sort of stuff?
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