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 Some good ideas here, the problem is that with the Boots of the Plains there is no way to teleport something designed to kill him on top of him, since he'll be off wreaking havoc somewhere else by the time the battle resolves, so you really can't go hunt him down.  (Yeah, those boots are one of the very best items in the game.)  I think the only reliable way to actively go after him would be Mind Hunt spam with as many boosters as possible.  (Provided he's not moving around astral casters to protect his pretender from this.)  Half of them will fail because they resolve after your target teleported away, but (if you have enough potential casters) you can make sure some hit the mark by choosing casters near the top and near the bottom of the casing order.  
 
Other than that you're stuck with using expendable raiding forces to take terriotory and clean up after him while deploying some of the measures suggested by the previous posters in the army(s) that you really want to keep protected from him.  (The various blood counters are perfect if the pretender acts alone, but in my experience targeting of said blood spells is wonky, and often won't target the big-hp targets, so if he's supported by other troops you might want to look at the other options.  MR 22 (+4 in battle presumably) is not at all unsurmountable if you have a couple of casters with penetration bonuses.)  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
			
			
			
			
				 
			
			
			
			
            
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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		The brute force is to Wish the Boots away, then teleport some kitted out warlocks casting life-for-life. 
Until then, keep pestering him with Lesser horrors. 
 
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		Thx for all those advices. 
Unfortunately i don't have many astral mages.  
I can recruit some indies with S1 and give them some stuff but it s quite costly. 
 
I think i ll have to dig in blood magic to find a solution. 
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		Depending on the circumstances, it may be worth attempting a domkill.  Build up a few temples and blood sacrifice. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		As he is already Horror Marked, just put up astral corruption. You will go to war with everybody else btw. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Thx for all those advices. 
Unfortunately i don't have many astral mages.  
I can recruit some indies with S1 and give them some stuff but it s quite costly. 
 
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		Horrors.  Lots and lots of horrors.  He'll succumb eventually. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Vengeance of the Dead. I don't know if they have modified it lately in CBM or something, but that spell autokills any SC, period. 
 
Probably that SC has a lot of kills done. If you cast it on him, he will face all that troops as ghosts. Even if he can kill all the ghosts, that only will double the amount of body counts in his record. Cast it again, and he face double that. Cast again, and it's quadruple. No matter how powerful the SC is, it soons enter in a combat he can't win during the number of rounds allowed for battle. Then, he will rout (he's the defender) and die. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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 He isn't horror marked  enough. S1 mages means you can just hit the guy with 5 horror marks per mage, and while he looks pretty though, Umor could still bring that god down.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Thx for all those advices. 
Unfortunately i don't have many astral mages.  
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 Abby's curse. So many interesting mages and most of them are all capitol only.
 
I would expect anything that would bring down this kind of character would be expensive. Lots of gems in this guy. 
 
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