Rate of fire question

[gila]

Originally Posted by Uncle_Joe

Hi all,

I've recently delved back into SP-MBT and I'm greatly enjoying the new patch.

I have one question about weapon rate of fire though.

It seems like it doesnt matter if weapons in the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th slot have a shot left, they'll never fire it with the last shot for the 1st slot weapon.

For example, if I have a BMP with 6 shots on the primary gun and 6 shots on the co-ax, for each of the first 5 shots, the primary gun will fire and the MG will fire. But on the 6th shot, only the primary will fire, never the MG (which 'loses' it's shot).

The same behavior holds true for just about every weapon I've seen so far - the primary weapon is the only one to fire on the last shot.

I seem to recall it being like this long ago and then that dynamic going away a few patches ago and now it's returning. Of course I could be misremembering as well...

In any case is this new behavior and/or is it intended behavior?

Thanks again for all the work the game. It truly is the best thing going for TBS tactical gaming!

I'm mostly an WW2 player,but i've noticed this behavior there too.
As in the Stuart for example*(my favourite),it only fires it's main gun at med.or long range until it gets close,say 6 hexs or so,then lets loose with all guns.
Sometimes i just turn off the main gun(to save HE ammo) so the the mg's can have some suppression effect on infrantry because an 37 mm HE is just a pea shooter at long range.
I've gotten used to it, but you would think tankers in a unbutton status, mg's would have a greater range than just 6 hexs

[AMX]

Originally Posted by gila

As in the Stuart for example*(my favourite),it only fires it's main gun at med.or long range until it gets close,say 6 hexs or so,then lets loose with all guns.
Sometimes i just turn off the main gun(to save HE ammo) so the the mg's can have some suppression effect on infrantry because an 37 mm HE is just a pea shooter at long range.
I've gotten used to it, but you would think tankers in a unbutton status, mg's would have a greater range than just 6 hexs

That's intentional, and not the issue Uncle_Joe is talking about.
Check Mobhack's post - there's an experience test involved (although in my experience, the result is so consistent that you can treat it as a fixed cut-off).

The problem here is that, if the secondary weapons have the same number of shots available as the main gun, they will not fire their last shot (even if the range is short enough that they should).

I distinctly remember that this used to be a problem, but was fixed several patches ago - apparently, it's back.

[gila]

Originally Posted by AMX

That's intentional, and not the issue Uncle_Joe is talking about.
Check Mobhack's post - there's an experience test involved (although in my experience, the result is so consistent that you can treat it as a fixed cut-off).

The problem here is that, if the secondary weapons have the same number of shots available as the main gun, they will not fire their last shot (even if the range is short enough that they should).

I distinctly remember that this used to be a problem, but was fixed several patches ago - apparently, it's back.

Well, you certainly seem to like kicking me in the head. so i'll not bother with MBT forum anymore.

[AMX]

Originally Posted by gila

Well, you certainly seem to like kicking me in the head. so i'll not bother with MBT forum anymore.

I don't like doing it, I'm just completely incapable of having a normal conversation without hurting somebody.

If somebody is leaving, it should probably be me.

[gila]

Originally Posted by AMX

I don't like doing it, I'm just completely incapable of having a normal conversation without hurting somebody.

If somebody is leaving, it should probably be me.

You're good, i'm bad for cross referenceing forums

I will say the M4 will fire it's turret mg's at long range along with it's main gun however, but not the stuart.