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Old September 30th, 2013, 10:57 AM
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Units 100 and 101 Chaparral
*Name should possibly be changed to "Drakon", the IDF name for the SP-Chaparral
*Dates should definitely be shortened.The only source I have for this is hebrew wiki(I know, I know), which states:

"In April 2003 the 3 Drakon batteries of the 946th Battalion were shut down."

A quick Hebrew search found some backup for this, a few forum posts and CVs from people saying they served in that battalion until it was shut down and the vehicles sold to a south american client.

I suggest new end date 2003.

Units 105 Hovet and 106 Machbet In 2006 the final Vulcan units were shut down, I remember this from my time in service. This is also mentioned in the Hebrew wikipedia and reliable Israeli military forums.
I realize this will make a hole in the Israeli OOB, but I am just giving you the info


Unit 116 Sherman Dozer If we are not going to do a M51 Dozer I think this should at least be extended to match the life span of the M51.

Unit 117 Shot Dozer Again, assuming we are not going to do a version for the newer shots, should have end date 2002.

Unit 118 Tiran Dozer should match life span of Tiran 5.

Unit 119 M728i CEVI dont think this was ever in Israeli service, is there a source that says it was?
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Old September 30th, 2013, 01:54 PM
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Unit 119 M728i CEVI dont think this was ever in Israeli service, is there a source that says it was?

It's been in the files for at least 10 years and it has it's own unique Icon so all I can tell you is someone thought it was but IDK who

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Unit 116 Sherman Dozer If we are not going to do a M51 Dozer I think this should at least be extended to match the life span of the M51.
But was there ever one???
No argument here just asking out of curiosity, because I've only seen dozers mounted on 105 mm Shermans.
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But was there ever one???
No argument here just asking out of curiosity, because I've only seen dozers mounted on 105 mm Shermans.
I have only seen the full dozer blade mounted on a M4 with a105mm short barrel howitzer. However AFAIK the dozer blade could be fitted to any sherman.

Also Don,

That is interesting. There is no specimen in Latrun...I have never seen a picture of one in IDF markings...And I do not recall ever hearing from anyone that they used them. In 1982 the IDF used 203mm SPA pieces to blast away buildings...

I just don't know. The only thing I can do is ask some old tankers if they ever saw one. I guess keep it for now.
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IDF UNIT 119 looks like it can go. The M728 CEV was born into the ARMY in 1965 and died in the GUARD in 2000. There is no evidence to support that this tank was ever exported. These sites usually show that info and a couple reference Hunnicutts book on the Patton series of tanks with for many is considered the "Bible" on the subject. The ARMY recieved about 291 of them until production ceased ~1972.
http://patton-mania.com/IDF_Pattons/idf_pattons.html
http://patton-mania.com/M60_Patton/m60_patton.html#M728 CEV
http://www.military-today.com/engineering/m728_cev.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...round/m728.htm
http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/cv/eng/M728.html
http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/cevm728.html


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The Puma:

Unit 120 Puma Dozer,Unit 130 Puma Nochri,Unit 422 Puma

This is the main ARV for the IDF since the early 1990s. All Pumas are capable of carrying troops.

Is there a way for the Dozer and Nochri versions to safely carry the troops and retain their mine clearing capability? If so carry capacity should be 8, and not 13(The skeleton crew for this thing is 3, the rest of the machine guns are manned by the sappers riding in it.

also we might want to add the CARPET as a weapon. Sure it wont clear mines in game, but IRL it was used as a direct fire weapon many times:
http://defense-update.com/news/6702carpet.htm
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