Italy OOB 34 corrections/suggestions (v.8.1)

Pibwl · #5 November 7th, 2015, 07:59 PM

285-288 CasaFortificata - picture is a bunker, while the name indicates fortified house.

320, 321, 593 Cannone 65mm - icon should be single-tail, eg. 2109

322, 323, 594 Cannone 70mm - it seems to be ancient 70/15 http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/70/15 - I can't find no info on 70/17. A photo can be found in Wikipedia. Used only by second-line and colonial units. Icon should be single-tail, eg. 2108
Unit 323 is AT-gun, but IT Wikipedia lists only HE and shrapnel.

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Earlier - from 1930 there could be added Obice Montagna 75/13 Mod. 1915 (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0koda_7,5_cm_Vz._1915 )

It seems, that 324, 325, 595 Cannone 75L17 is in fact 75/13, and it was classified as obice da montagna , not cannone. IT Wikipedia doesn't list other short 75mm guns. There is 75/17 Schneider, but they were captured Yugoslavian guns http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schneider_75_mm_M_Mle_1919

326, 327, 365, 596 Cannone 75L19 - with weapon 75mm L19 Mod.34 it seems to be in fact Obice 75/18 (not 19) Mod. 1934 http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/75/18_Mod._1934/1935.
Hence, in their classes it is the same, as units:
#19 Obice Montagna using weapon #32 75mm L18 M34/35
#358 Cannone 75L18 using weapon #61 Obice da 75L18
(Mod.34 and 35 differed in a gunbed only). All weapons should be the same, while weapon 32 has too much range 204 - according to Wikipedia, it had 9500 m. It is not an off-map gun class anyway.
Icon should have shorter barrel (say, 2106, as proposed for unit 19 - same for unit 358)
Photo in 326,327,596 is not this gun, which looked more modern.

328,329,366 Cannone 105mm - they were in fact captured French or Yugo guns http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schneid...mm_M_Mle._1919 , hence they should start in late 1940. However, there is no mention that they were fitted with AP ammo - and this gun doesn't look as a good AT measure..
Icon should be single-tail, say 2115

331 C/C 37L45 - picture should be German PAK (now it's Bofors)

333,367 Cannone 149L17 - same remarks, as for #28
It might be Krupp 149/12 or Skoda 149/13 - IT Wikipedia lists AP (in fact HEAT) ammo only for the second one http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0koda_15_cm_Vz._1914 , but it wasn't an infantry support gun, but heavy howitzer anyway.

335 Cannone 150mm - German sIG has icon 2216
It is however peculiar, that IT Wikipedia doesn't mention about its eventual usage in Regio Esercito http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_cm_sIG_33

339 Maroszek FCC - officially it was Fucile controcarro Mod. 35(P) - http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maroszek_wz._35
Weapon's name should be changed (now ZK.. suggests Czech weapon)
It has a warhead 2 (should be 1 I guess).

BTW: is extremely high accuracy 34 of German #88 PzB-39 and #137 PzB M.SS.41 justified? It's almost twice better, than wz.35 (18) (#139 in GE and #135 in PL OOBs) and Boys (16) and much better than PTRS

346 L6 Lanciafiamme - apparently it had no trailer, but internal tank of mixture (photos do not show the tank with a trailer, and it had 200 l of mixture (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/L6/40), what would be too low for a trailer - 500 l in CV-33 Lf). Soviet OT-130 carried 400 l tank inside.
According to Squadron/Signal book: "An unknown number of L6/40Lfs were built, but this variant did not enter service"

349,359-361 - French tanks - I don't expect the Italians to bother with changing original MGs to own obsolete 6.5mm ones...
Some photos of Italian R35 and S35 can be found here http://www.italie1935-45.com/forum/v...php?f=10&t=389

355 AB Munizioni - in fact a picture should be turretless Autoblinda, but it may be hard to find..

364 Alfa Romeo Prot - a basic model of armoured truck was in fact Fiat 665NM (mentioned in Italian Armoured Vehicles..). It was developed in 1942 (now 41) and used for anti-partisan actions
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_665NM_protetto

374 Dovunque35 Prot - seems, that they entered service in late 1944 in RSI only https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPA_Dovunque_35_protetto http://www.italie1935-45.com/regio-e...ue-35-blindato - although 2 were captured by the partizans.

381 Spelonca Alpino - seems, that it should have a photo of a cave

378, 379, 380, 382, 388 forts etc - they use 75/32 guns, but it entered service only in 1941 and was most modern Italian field gun http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/75/32_Mod._1937 - I guess, that forts should use older guns (eg. 75/27?)