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Old October 3rd, 2017, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: Will China and Russia Make U.S. F-22 and F-35 Stealth Fighters Obsolete?

Good old fashioned wire guided atgm systems can't be jammed.

As far as the F-22 and F-35 being obsolete, even IF they can be detected by radar, which is not a jammer, are still very effective weapon systems. The only way I can see Russia and/or China making those systems obsolete is developing a 6th generation system fighter and considering currently Russia has not began production of a 5th gen fighter and China's J20 is being considered a 4+ gen fighter when compared to the F-22 and F-35. Still going to be a while before those systems are obsolete. Heck, depending on the mission, the F-15, F-16, and A-10 are still not obsolete.

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Old November 10th, 2017, 01:42 AM
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Post Re: Will China and Russia Make U.S. F-22 and F-35 Stealth Fighters Obsolete?

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Good old fashioned wire guided atgm systems can't be jammed.
And, this maybe true as the US Army has over the past two decades failed to fund "Fire and Forget" ATGMs; Although, Raytheon has a contract to produce "wireless" guided missiles, under the designations: BGM-71E TOW 2A, the BGM-71F TOW 2B, and the TOW 2B Aero.

Now, the question is whether wire guided systems are immune to jamming. Here, I am suggesting the emission of white light would cause the operator to loose target acquisition. The white light blinds the TOW operator, thus causing the missile to miss the target.

It is akin to "...a camera flash going off in your face in a dimly lit room? It leaves you unable to see at all for a brief period of time and then leaves you seeing spots for a few minutes. A laser directly in the eyes can cause retinal damage at the worst or leave you unable to see for a brief period of time." Target lost.

In 1987 a Soviet vessel, the Chukotka illuminated a U.S. Navy P-3 reconnaissance aircraft with an intense light causing eye damage to the pilot. Source.

In game terms, we do not have evidence of a vehicle deployed with a "white light" counter measure. If there existed such a measure, we could increase the EW rating of the vehicle to model the affect in the game.


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