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November 10th, 2017, 10:35 PM
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Re: Will China and Russia Make U.S. F-22 and F-35 Stealth Fighters Obsolete?
And the Javelin ATGM is what, precisely?
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November 11th, 2017, 06:15 PM
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Re: Will China and Russia Make U.S. F-22 and F-35 Stealth Fighters Obsolete?
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And the Javelin ATGM is what, precisely?
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The Javelin is the primary infantry ATGM in use by the US Army and Marines. It is a lethal weapon, indeed. With regards to guidance systems, it is an imaging IR guided missile. As such, it too is susceptible to high illuminating white light when directed at the missile.
In general, the counter-measure is an attack on the missiles recticle-scan seekers to degrade the image processing homing system.
The Canadians have an interesting stduy from 2007, " Preliminary study of defensive aids suite technology for the armour combat vehicle programme."
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November 11th, 2017, 06:58 PM
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Re: Will China and Russia Make U.S. F-22 and F-35 Stealth Fighters Obsolete?
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And the Javelin ATGM is what, precisely?
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The Javelin is the primary infantry ATGM in use by the US Army and Marines. It is a lethal weapon, indeed. With regards to guidance systems, it is an imaging IR guided missile. As such, it too is susceptible to high illuminating white light when directed at the missile.
In general, the counter-measure is an attack on the missiles recticle-scan seekers to degrade the image processing homing system.
The Canadians have an interesting stduy from 2007, " Preliminary study of defensive aids suite technology for the armour combat vehicle programme."
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the point I was refuting was the statement
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And, this maybe true as the US Army has over the past two decades failed to fund "Fire and Forget" ATGMs;
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The javelin being a prime example of a fire and forget ATGM, after all, and somewhat funded by the US Army...
Anyway - this thread is drifting off into pointlessness.
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November 11th, 2017, 07:58 PM
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Re: Will China and Russia Make U.S. F-22 and F-35 Stealth Fighters Obsolete?
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The Maverick and Hellfire missiles are not fire and forget ATGMs?
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Originally Posted by Mobhack
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Originally Posted by shahadi
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Originally Posted by Mobhack
And the Javelin ATGM is what, precisely?
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The Javelin is the primary infantry ATGM in use by the US Army and Marines. It is a lethal weapon, indeed. With regards to guidance systems, it is an imaging IR guided missile. As such, it too is susceptible to high illuminating white light when directed at the missile.
In general, the counter-measure is an attack on the missiles recticle-scan seekers to degrade the image processing homing system.
The Canadians have an interesting stduy from 2007, " Preliminary study of defensive aids suite technology for the armour combat vehicle programme."
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the point I was refuting was the statement
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And, this maybe true as the US Army has over the past two decades failed to fund "Fire and Forget" ATGMs;
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The javelin being a prime example of a fire and forget ATGM, after all, and somewhat funded by the US Army...
Anyway - this thread is drifting off into pointlessness.
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The fire and forget missiles were brought up earlier and addressed. My comment on lack of funding was only pertinent to replacing TOWs with wireless missles by the army.
The point is in games terms if I want to author a scenario say in 2023 (sometime in the future) and I edit a platoon of Indian tanks to make them IR counter-measure equipped, I might want to increase the EW rating of the tank. On what realm of possibility would I edit those Indian tanks ? If studies say it is possible to do so.
But, yeah we talked FF missiles in earlier posts.
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