Polish LWP OOB09 (v.8.1)

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

234 "Ptaszki" class - proper name is Jaskolka class.

I've found its own icon 3490 (made by Blazejos, I guess?)

234 should have an armament of two twin 20mm Flak and a single 20mm Flak. A nice photo is here http://www.kozmice.pl/images/rybitwa_03.jpg

Sorry for pestering you and mixing two games, but it's worth to copy an icon 3490 also for SPMBT Polish OOB unit 745 "Ptaszki" class (personally I prefer Jaskolka class, for "Ptaszki" - 'birds' - was only their nickname, from their names).

In fact, SPMBT unit 745 with such armament should be available only from 1951, while earlier there should be an unit with two twin 20mm Flak and a single 20mm Flak (actually, a number of their Flaks differed, but all had at least 5). In 1951 there could be both units available, due to re-armament in progress.


235 BTSZCZ class could receive a proper photo, though there isn't much in the Net (http://www.graptolite.net/Facta_Naut...os-785x348.jpg , Soviet one https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4914...e9628_orig.jpg )

[zastava128]

Just noticed WEAPON 158 (MP38/40) has Accuracy 0, when it should be 1.

[DRG]

....used by one ( 1 ) partisan unit ,I doubt anyone would ever notice the difference in gameplay but it's been fixed now

[Pibwl]

Only a few things:

Originally Posted by blazejos

26 M4A2 (76) ...

There is a also Sherman in LWP unit description LWP on German soil so small number was again used in May-July 1945 meaby was transferred from tanks school or soviet units to replace loses.
http://s124.photobucket.com/user/bol...544e6.png.html

It appeared, that the photo http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...psb0d544e6.png is most probably old propaganda fake. Here is original Soviet tank, without an eagle: http://www.dws.org.pl/download/file....0531&mode=view

I suggest to remove Sherman at all - or at least reclassify it as #253 Tank (gathering training tanks)

28 SU-57 - a detail, but a main weapon should be renamed 57mm M1 gun (its performance currently differs slightly from US M1 gun, and from Soviet OOB 57mm L73 ZiS-4).
Max speed was 72 km/h (24), like of US halftrack. Same remarks for Soviet unit 088.

31 SU-85 - there was no DShK AAMG, or any other AAMG.

37,36 ISU-122, ISU-122s - it's worth to give 37 ISU-122 a new gun A-19S, with the same performance, to differentiate them (in the Soviet OOB they have different ones).

Weapon #75 122mm L48 D-25T of ISU-122s has currently better penetration and range, than #63 122mm L48 D-25, and better than the same gun in Soviet OOB (all should be the same). In fact, weapon 75 was named D-25S (for SP-guns), and 63 - D-25T (for tanks).

52 T-4 - they were used without side screens.
The photo is very German one. Unfortunately, there is only partial photo of Polish LWP tank http://www.sokol.slupsk.pl/Polskie_koty/5.jpg
There might be used http://www.sokol.slupsk.pl/Polskie_koty/2.jpg of Polish forces in the West.

53 T-3 - they were used without side screens (as the photo shows).
In Polish reports they were known as T-3 (75mm), to differentiate from Pz III tanks.

54 T-38- in Polish reports they were known as T-38 (75mm).
I'll attach a photo.

93 PTRD - a photo doesn't show much, there is a better Polish one: http://www.2wojna.pl/encyklopedia-su-bs-006.html

146 76.2mm Howitzer, 147 76.2mm Battery - weapon should be named wz.42, not wz.43 - it was ZiS-3 field gun, not wz.43 infantry gun (off-map range is OK).
Also picture is wz.43 infantry gun - Soviet oob uses 14139, or there are better photos of presumably Russian guns:
http://muzeumgryf.pl/wp-content/uplo...zis3-m1942.jpg
http://ww2tanki.ru/images/artillerij...a-zis-3-23.jpg
http://историк.рф/wp-conten...016/03/012.jpg

- or I'll attach Polish photos.

159 122mm Battery - it definitely should be class off-map heavy arty (now it's #156 light arty).
As far as I can see, now there are no formations for #156 class - which contains also 147 76.2mm Battery

219 Taczanka - icon 3491 should be for all seasons (winter and desert is wagon now)

221 76.2mm obr27 IG - better name is 76.2mm wz.27 IG, as of unit 276.
BTW, one of these units is redundant - they are the only ones in their classes; the one in Infantry Howitzer class is used in one cavalry formation, while the other in Pack How. class is used as infantry gun, and also with the cavalry. If you'd like to, you could replace one of them (appearing later) with 76mm wz.43 infantry gun, and make both the same Infantry howitzer class.

76mm wz.43 infantry gun was used from some late 1943 I guess. It should have picture 29367, max range 4200 m, short twin-tail icon eg 2163 (It could also go to Soviet OOB)

234 Jaskolka class - there is a proper picture 20643

There should be added Panzerfaust as Inf. AT - used in quite a big number from 3/45. Soviet photo 14081 could do.
There might be also added an infantry squad with Panzerfaust, although they weren't obviously in all squads.

That's all this time.

[Pibwl]

It's good, that Soviet hammer and a sickle were removed from Polish LWP flag - however, now it's plain white and red, which was a primary flag of Poland also in 1920-1946 period, and it might cause confusion (I pick that flag in first instance, looking for Poland in menu).
(In fact, a flag with an eagle on a red shield on white field, which is used for Poland, is only a variation used as a merchant navy ensign, and a flag of Polish state institutions abroad, but it's not an error to keep it).

Therefore I suggest to give LWP a flag with Piast's eagle, which was used as a badge in the LWP. There's no need to change small flags, only the one in a menu.

[zastava128]

FORMATION 157 Reserve Platoon - should have Experience Modifier -5 and Morale Modifier -2, like FORMATION 158 (Reserve Inf. Company).

Don't think many people ever use these, but there you go