MAPS!

Beeg · #1 December 26th, 2018, 07:41 PM

Wow, great suggestions! Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with Venhola. I would like the map to be as big as is feasible, in summer, with river crossing (assault) as the mission.
I was raised in this area of Bavaria and it may have been a strategic location if the Soviets decided to continue into Bavaria from Austria after WW2. My hypothetical has Patton refusing to turn over White Cossacks and recruiting German army prisoners for defense. I envision the main Soviet thrust coming from the southeast, towards Vilshofen, with allied (Czech?) units securing the area north of the Danube. The town would be defended by a mixture of US personnel, Cossacks, and German civilians/soldiers. There would be a US relief column coming from the northwest as reinforcements.
The terrain is very hilly, as you said. The part of Vilshofen to the south and east of the Vils River, which splits the town, would not have been very developed at that time. That part of town is mostly new since the war. I've attached a map showing roughly what I have in mind for the force locations but I had to reduce it and it may not be legible.
Sorry to carry on like this but I'm excited about your ideas. If you have other suggestions, please let me know. Thanks much!

wulfir · #2 December 26th, 2018, 08:09 PM

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I'm not familiar with Venhola.

It is an amazing tool for map making. Highly recommended.

So, the setup is meant to be 1945?

If the AI is to make the river crossing it will be able to send infantry across, but will struggle with non-Amphibious vehicles...

wulfir · #3 December 26th, 2018, 08:17 PM

Vilshofen map, 1950s, US Army Europe, appears to be based on German WW2 maps:

https://www.landkartenarchiv.de/tk25...Maps_2536_high

Beeg · #4 December 26th, 2018, 08:35 PM

OMG! That archive map is amazing! It appears that it's not downloadable though. I would love to get a full-size copy but I'd prefer not to buy a print.

Beeg · #5 December 26th, 2018, 08:37 PM

Quick story - my dad was part of the US occupation force in that area right after the war. That's how he met my mom. Good thing this is a hypothetical or I may not be here. lol

Beeg · #6 December 26th, 2018, 08:27 PM

Yea... 1945, 1946 possibly. I'm still debating whether to make it in SPWW2 or SPMBT.
I know the river crossing can be tricky. The game seems to work best when the troops are moving left-to-right and vice versa, as opposed to up & down, with a river crossing. That's why I was hoping to have the Vils running roughly north & south. That would be the major river crossing, with the main Soviet force attacking right-to-left. The forces on the north bank of the Donau can have a separate battle so that river doesn't need to be crossed. I'd like the scenario to be balanced, to be played as either side, but the AI works much better in defense so that may be an issue.
I found Venhola doing a search but there doesn't appear to be any information on how to use it. Any help there? Thanks again.

wulfir · #7 December 26th, 2018, 08:41 PM

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Yea... 1945, 1946 possibly. I'm still debating whether to make it in SPWW2 or SPMBT.

A quick search online says that the Donau bridge near Vilshofen was destroyed April 1945 and rebuilt in Aug 1950. Did you want to factor this in, or this being a what-if have a replacement bridge in place for the scenario?

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That's why I was hoping to have the Vils running roughly north & south. That would be the major river crossing, with the main Soviet force attacking right-to-left.

Should not be a problem.

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I found Venhola doing a search but there doesn't appear to be any information on how to use it. Any help there? Thanks again.

Sure. It's not that complicated, at all. Can you find Vilshofen using Venhola?

Beeg · #8 December 26th, 2018, 09:02 PM

That's amazing. I didn't know that bridge was destroyed. To me, at that time (a few years later), it looked new but I never gave it a second thought. I'll have to think about that for the scenario. Besides capturing both ends of the bridge, I hadn't factored that bridge in.

Yes, I found Vilshofen using Venhola.

wulfir · #9 December 26th, 2018, 09:17 PM

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Yes, I found Vilshofen using Venhola.

Use the + button to center the grid where you want it. This will be your map, it'll be max size.

If you want to rotate the map you can do so by using shift/alt/mouse drag.

Use the arrow button to download your map.

Beeg · #10 December 26th, 2018, 09:20 PM

Got it. I download it to WinSPMBT and went into the editor. It seems I have various hill heights but there are no details on the map - it's all green (clear).