Things we'd like to see in the next patch

tbontob · #1 October 9th, 2002, 09:17 AM

What I would really, really, REALLY like to see is for us to have the capacity to program how our ships and fleets do battle.

Over fifteen years ago (Is it really that long?

), a game was written for the Apple whereby robots fought with sensors, weapons, movement etc. Using boolian, we would program the robot and then match it agains others.

It was a hoot. And a lot of fun.

If this could be done over 15 years ago, it should not be difficult to implement it into this game.

Nodachi · #2 October 9th, 2002, 06:05 PM

I'd like to see mounts that can add an ability to a component.

I don't know if this could work but how about the ability to use more than one mount?

Mounts that could affect the ROF of a weapon would be good.

A restricted field add to the tech areas. Ex; You have tech A, you can research tech B or tech C, you choose B and now you can not research C. This would add a new element for modders to work with.

Gryphin · #3 October 9th, 2002, 06:30 PM

I would like to see:
When you are selecting a Way Point to send a ship to I would like to see the system on the map the way it is in where you Set them. When you select a waypoint the system "lights up" on the map

[ October 09, 2002, 23:54: Message edited by: Gryphin ]

Foreman · #4 October 9th, 2002, 06:38 PM

Thanks canpnq and oleg. I've tried these suggestions and almost satisfied.

After some more playing on this game, I found that checking construction instructions of all planets cost most of my time. If a planet isn't building anything, it's either well developed (filled all facility slots) or not given suitable instruction yet. I would like to see new planet status icon that represents 'no space yard there and all facility slots are filled with highest tech buildings'. Then I may just sort them and pick the planets without that icon.

About the 'interceptor and bomber classification' I mentioned on Last message, I've tried to edit game data (based on Prportions mod) to achieve it. Simply two major concerns:

- All class of fighters have some internal supply storage ability.
- Two sets of small fighter engines: one normal set, and the other without supply storage ability BUT cost much supply during movement. The latter one even get higher engine thrust. The latter set of new small engines could be used to defend planet and/or carriers during battle but cannot leave their planet/carrier to battle since firing cost supplies.

About the 'easier way to get population of different race', I do think migrations shall be allowed during partner kingdoms, just like USA and UK. If players could upload some population while download same amount population, AND not making that planet dormed, that shall be allowed.

Trading ships with loaded population is quick, but I cannot know what's the tranport loads before exchange, and I am playing no-saving games.

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[ October 09, 2002, 17:41: Message edited by: Foreman ]

Suicide Junkie · #5 October 9th, 2002, 07:01 PM

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About the 'easier way to get population of different race', I do think migrations shall be allowed during partner kingdoms, just like USA and UK. If players could upload some population while download same amount population, AND not making that planet dormed, that shall be allowed.

Trading for a race that breathes the same atmosphere accomplishes nothing except make your people angry.

You can't undome any new planets, and you suffer from the "alien population" happiness penalty.

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About the 'interceptor and bomber classification' I mentioned on Last message, I've tried to edit game data (based on Prportions mod) to achieve it. Simply two major concerns:...

Adding (or removing) supply storage to the fighter's hull (in vehiclesize.txt) would solve the first problem.
The second problem is easily solved by adding restrictions to the components. One-per-vehicle would prevent someone from adding both types of engine.

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If a planet isn't building anything, it's either well developed (filled all facility slots) or not given suitable instruction yet. I would like to see new planet status icon that represents 'no space yard there and all facility slots are filled with highest tech buildings'. Then I may just sort them and pick the planets without that icon.

Can't you just sort the colonies by facility slots used, and then just scroll down to the empty ones, and deal with whichever ones have no black-and-yellow construction in progress icon?

Foreman · #6 October 9th, 2002, 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:

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About the 'easier way to get population of different race', I do think migrations shall be allowed during partner kingdoms, just like USA and UK. If players could upload some population while download same amount population, AND not making that planet dormed, that shall be allowed.

Trading for a race that breathes the same atmosphere accomplishes nothing except make your people angry.

You can't undome any new planets, and you suffer from the "alien population" happiness penalty.

Let me give an example:
- I am playing a race breathing methane
- I have an ally that breathes oxygen
- My transporter loaded 40M population of my race
- This transporter is moved to an ally planet, which is a rocky methane planet, domed since my ally don't breath methane.
- In this case, I hope that I may unload 40M methane population and upload some oxygen pop.
- The population exchange action is allowed only if the incoming race can remove the domes of a planet, maybe not immediately (if some original population left there) but his ally can really benefit from it.
Exchanging transporters with population is not migration but politic tricks :<

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About the 'interceptor and bomber classification' I mentioned on Last message, I've tried to edit game data (based on Prportions mod) to achieve it. Simply two major concerns:...

Adding (or removing) supply storage to the fighter's hull (in vehiclesize.txt) would solve the first problem.
The second problem is easily solved by adding restrictions to the components. One-per-vehicle would prevent someone from adding both types of engine.
Thanks, I've already done both of them it before I post my idea.

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If a planet isn't building anything, it's either well developed (filled all facility slots) or not given suitable instruction yet. I would like to see new planet status icon that represents 'no space yard there and all facility slots are filled with highest tech buildings'. Then I may just sort them and pick the planets without that icon.

Can't you just sort the colonies by facility slots used, and then just scroll down to the empty ones, and deal with whichever ones have no black-and-yellow construction in progress icon?

Yes I can. I just want a more convenience tool. If 'next planet' could skip planets that have that new icon it would be even better.

Sorry for my bad english syntax, and thanks for the advices. Maybe someone there feels that I am an unexperienced player, but I do accomplished more than 20 SE4 games, and keep reading forum for more than half year. I just didn't post before.

henk brouwer · #7 October 12th, 2002, 01:12 AM

I'd really like to see this bug fixed (AI not using bonus correctly, posted by Oleg):

http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...;f=23;t=007152

It shouldn't be too hard too fix but would have an enormous impact on AI performance.

And ofcourse I'd like to see the AI use captured populations, but that would probably require a lot of work from Malfador...