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Old August 18th, 2021, 03:49 AM
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Fallout Re: obat26 Afghanistan

To "quantify" the following, 1 is too many, but, war is war. As the release of classified documents released in about the last 15 years or so showed, we were some place else a lot longer then was "advertised" my Dad did an advisor tour while in the USA in either 1957/58 or 1958/59 (1959 is when the war started between North and South Vietnam.)

Both Afghanistan and S. Vietnam with our involvement share similar issues both politically and militarily. Which tried to change their governments but due to incompetency and corruption, they both failed. We spent decades training both so that could fight on their own, the final result? The countries capitals of Kabul fell this past weekend and Saigon fell in 1 day as most historians agree on now-mostly-2 days by some.

Unlike the Ukrainians presently that are fighting to preserve their country (Maybe it's time we bumped up their morale also. At least they're "holding the line".), the other two, besides the above were/are "tribal" in nature regionally in S. Vietnam and more locally in Afghanistan.

The evacuations, no difference. I watched it live on TV then as now and it's the same "F U Soup Sandwich".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA3uV_YXZAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36lLBbhnkZU
https://www.forces.net/heritage/hist...as-fall-saigon
https://thevietnamwar.info/how-long-...20be%20precise.


To the other...
https://www.forces.net/evergreen/isl...they-different

There was guy named George Santayana who said “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

Sounds about right to me.

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Default Re: obat26 Afghanistan

Arms of Afghanistan army

before soviet invasion until late 70's

small arms rifles/carabines etc
https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/...rt-i-firearms/

vehicles/APC/Tanks
https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/...and-artillery/

There is an video which was an prediction of this what now happens on Kabul airport

Bagram military base and Jun 5 2021
https://www.scmp.com/video/world/314...ing-new-afghan
June 17 still under control of ANA
https://www.scmp.com/video/asia/3138...rd-scraps-sell
Now with all this vehicles probably in Taliban hands

And good article about reason why this happens "Why the US-Trained Afghan National Army Have Been Defeated with Ease by the Taliban"
https://www.military.com/daily-news/...e-taliban.html
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