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December 23rd, 2021, 03:45 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Don,
To finish up on Israeli EITAN:
1. What I forgot ... The APC version also has a Pintal Mount MG 7.62mm for the Commander. It's mounted forward of the RWS on the right side.
2. ATGW ...
It's the SPIKE MR, as I remember this has a larger warhead on it than the standard SPIKE. I can't remember if the only difference with the SPIKE LR is just the range.
3. One of the " unknowns" at the time, armor...
Frontal Arc protection " up and including" against 30mm AP.
The rest " up to and including" against 14.5mm AP.
The above values reflect the protection straight from the factory w/o add on protection. It from the start was considered the best protected APC in the world.
4. Also I found that the 30mm w/coaxial 7.62mm, is capable of extremely high elevation to attack skyscrapers in urban combat from lessons learned. Obviously, that being said, it'd be highly effective against helicopters as well.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/eitan.htm
I gotta get to bed-had a long day.
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Pat
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April 8th, 2022, 12:43 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
FULLY REFITTED/PAINTED and UPARMORED BUSHMASTERS (First 20) in the air NOW!
Australia continuing support of Ukraine. They asked for them now they're getting them.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...41c629a2a61abf
Someone needs to get in the shower NOW
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Pat
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April 8th, 2022, 01:36 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH
FULLY REFITTED/PAINTED and UPARMORED BUSHMASTERS (First 20) in the air NOW!
Australia continuing support of Ukraine. They asked for them now they're getting them.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...41c629a2a61abf
Someone needs to get in the shower NOW
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Pat
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April 8th, 2022, 11:21 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Concur-all.
Been playing Ukraine for a lot of years now since even before OPLOT-M submission but, nothing like a " hot war" to get people's attention.
MASTIFF PPV now there's a beast, also I like those BUSHMASTERs.
Regards,
Pat
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April 22nd, 2022, 03:02 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
This confirms a "back room" discussion on which M113 the Ukraine is getting from the U.S.
Even though unlikely it was considered a possibility we could be sending them the M113A2.
The matter was looked into further and it became much clearer that it would be the M113A3. The ref now validates that choice.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...o_ukraine.html
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