Analysis of boarding parties.

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by dumbluck:

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
I have done some analysis and come up with the following definitive results regarding boarding:

• Increasing the size or structure of crew quarters through a mod has no effect on boarding defense. Their strength is 20 per component, regardless.

Geoschmo

Isn't that moddable in settings.txt?

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Not that I could see. Wouldn't really be any use. It would affect all races equally. If you wanted to do that you could just change the boarding and security comps.

Geoschmo

[dumbluck]

I just checked again, and you're right, it's not there. But I could have sworn it was...

[Suicide Junkie]

Crew quarters give 4 boarding defense points. It has been that way since SE3 or earlier.
Ties go to the defender.

Boarding attack/defense points are multiplied by four to get the default decription of the number of turrets/troopers.

The defense strength of Crew quarters can be increased or decreased by adding a "boarding defense" ability to the component.

Proof:
A) One (1) cruiser with 1 modded boarding party providing 21 attack points.
B) One (1) cruiser with 4 Level 1 Boarding parties (5 points each, total = 20 attack points)
C) One (1) cruiser with 5 crew quarters.

Cruiser B attempts to board cruiser C. It fails.
Cruiser A attempts to board cruiser C. It succeeds.

Thus, cruiser C has less than or equal to 21 defense points. It also has equal to or greater than 20 defense points. (Since ties give unknown results)

Thus, Cruiser C has either 20 or 21 defense points.

Since 21 does not divide evenly into 5 (five crew quarters), Cruiser C must have 20 defense points.

Since 20 vs 20 failed to capture, ties must go to the defender.

(sorry Geo)

[ October 28, 2002, 03:33: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

[Fyron]

My analysis:

Boarding ships are fun. Just load a few BP Vs on board, and you're ready to go. Ships either get captured, or self-destructed. Either way, the enemy lost more than you did.

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
(sorry Geo)

SJ, why in the world are you sorry? My reason for doing this work and posting this was to clear up the confusion. I think I came close, but if there are inacuracies in my calculations, then I want to get them corrected.

However, since I am trying to write this from the perspective of a user and not a modder, rather than force calculations on them I will simply say the crew quarters offers a defense factor of 16. Does that make sense to you?

Geoschmo

[ October 28, 2002, 13:47: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[dogscoff]

I altered the "boarding parties" entry (without knowing about this thread) and said that the crew quarters are destroyed in boarded ships.

Then someone (Geo?) changed it to this:

The captured ship is not damaged by boarding. (unless it has a self destruct device)

I'm sure I had it right. I observed it only Last night, several times. I don't have the game in front of me but can anyone prove it one way or the other?

[geoschmo]

I changed it. I have never seen that, and in all my tests the crew quarters are not damaged.

Perhpas you are playing with the P&N mod or some other mod in which crew quarters are given security station ability, and you have a weapon that damages these?

For that matter, maybe a weapon that targets security stations in the stock game will damage crew quarters. I don't know for sure. But the boarding parties themselves will not.

Geoschmo

[ October 28, 2002, 14:35: Message edited by: geoschmo ]