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November 27th, 2002, 05:12 AM
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Re: game styles
And just how would you handle building ships twice as quickly, while still maintaining all those vital components that cost only minerals?
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November 27th, 2002, 05:30 AM
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Re: game styles
Silly rabbit.  If build times are faster, it's because the design costs fewer minerals. If costs are more evenly spread across min/org/rad, then maintenance will be more evenly spread out as well.
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November 27th, 2002, 05:51 AM
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Re: game styles
Wow, you mean lower costs give shorter build times?
That does not answer the question of how you get half the build time while still maintaining the essentials on the ship.
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November 27th, 2002, 06:06 AM
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Re: game styles
Do you mean maintain as in ship maintenance, or maintain as in continue to meet some standard of performance? I ***_u_me that you mean paying for bridge/ls/qc when you say vital components. I'm saying that since the rest of the ship costs less in minerals, one can afford to pay for more b/ls/qc comps. Are we yanking on different ropes here?
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November 27th, 2002, 06:10 AM
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Re: game styles
I mean by still keeping all the costs from the essential components on the ship (includes ECM, CS, PDC, Solar Sail, Engines, Stealth Armor (and Scattering for larger ships), etc. in addition to B/LS/CQ). I didn't mean anything about per turn maintenance.
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November 27th, 2002, 06:34 AM
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Re: game styles
Running a quick full-tech test..
A standard, APB armed Battleship:
B/2LS/2CQ 5 Quantum Engines 3 Phased V
CS/ECM III Scattering/Stealth Solar Sail 6 APB XII
Costs: 16450/200/2240
5 turn build time
Standard Organic Battleship:
Same except 5 OA/7 Lightning Ray/1 Parsite
Costs: 9300/7150/800
3 turn build time
EDIT: playing around in the simulator says it can go either way; pitted 3 of the first against 5 of the second.
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[ November 27, 2002, 04:36: Message edited by: Phoenix-D ]
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November 27th, 2002, 06:43 AM
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Re: game styles
Imperator Fyron
At the INITIAL stages of the game the benefits from organic tech outway the disadvantages.
The Organic Armor alone will allow me to withstand more punishment than a regular race can, it starts off with 100kt of damage plus it regenerates.
AT level 1-2 i will admit that the DUC does more damage than the organic weapons but the range advantage goes to the Organic Weapons. What good is doing more damage if you cannot get into firing range. again i am talking EARLY stages of game.
Parasite Vs. Cap Ship Missile. again at level 1-2 advantage goes to the Organic. the range is the same and so is the damage, however the reload time goes to the Parasite. once Point Defense Weapons are researched the missiles almost become a useless weapon except in massive swarms.
this is based on ship sizes of Escort, Frigate and Destroyer as those are the EARLY game ships.
i agree that the research cost is expensive but i think it is worth it. In order of preference i am trying to get the Organic Armor, Seeker, Electric Discharge (for the range advantage) then plasma bolt.
edit. corrected statement about range and damage btwn Parasite and Cap Ship Missile and added reload time.
[ November 27, 2002, 04:52: Message edited by: desdinova ]
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