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July 6th, 2012, 03:52 PM
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Re: The Joys of Overzealous Moderators
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Calling them out for their multiple accounts is to show the hypocrisy in banning other major contributors thoughtlessly. If we can overlook the faults of some, and we should, then we could also forgive the faults of Calahan and Sombre.
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Different cases of breaking different rules by different people were treated differently. The difference seems to be that shrapnel value contrition over contributions. I agree this is not good for the health of the community but its not hypocrisy.
If you have something to say in Calahan's defence its best not surrounded by an argument that ignores everything shrapnel say and mostly involves attacking someone else.
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First, this story has a background over years, if you don't get what it is we see as hypocrisy i can't help you. Second, there is no contrition to value over anything else in any of the cases.
I appologize to the community for feeding this troll, he's skilled at it and I fell for it, **** like that always makes me feel dirty.
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July 6th, 2012, 03:58 PM
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Re: The Joys of Overzealous Moderators
As for contrition, that was the message I got from shrapnel (that they didn't think Calahan was likely to "reform" or somesuch).
Perhaps shrapnel will understand your position, but I don't. good luck.
I apologise for getting angry. I'm not helping the matter either.
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July 6th, 2012, 05:12 PM
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Re: The Joys of Overzealous Moderators
Seems that my absence of a couple of months for various reasons has been supremely ill timed. I will need to check in on the whole issue before weighing in any more than that, but if anyone cares to point me in the direction of the relevant threads, please provide links.
I will get back to this tomorrow, it's past midnight here already and I've got to go to work in the morning.
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July 6th, 2012, 05:29 PM
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Re: The Joys of Overzealous Moderators
Edi, there are no relevant threads regarding this. Just a sudden decision to ban Calahan for his sig (he put it up about two months ago) which was followed by Bat/man being banned.
Now you know as much as we do.
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July 7th, 2012, 02:52 AM
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Re: The Joys of Overzealous Moderators
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Edi, there are no relevant threads regarding this. Just a sudden decision to ban Calahan for his sig (he put it up about two months ago) which was followed by Bat/man being banned.
Now you know as much as we do.
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Okay, so that came right out of the blue for everyone. This thread also shed some light on the relevant things. Thanks.
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July 7th, 2012, 06:49 AM
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Re: The Joys of Overzealous Moderators
Posted at the behest of Calahan;
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So I see some of my critics are coming out of the woodwork on Shrapnal now that it's safe to have a go at me just because I can't respond to them directly (how brave of them). Can someone do me a favour and offer my critics this challenge...
The Calahan Challenge - Find any post where I've insulted someone that HASN'T been either a direct result of that person posting misinformation, talking nonsense, or trying to defend suspect playing behaviour (such as cheating/move-blocking/bailing etc). Or that person having a history of doing any and all of the aforementioned things .
Because as I pointed out before with the chicken and egg simile, I would be the nicest and most friendly forumite the world has ever seen* if people didn't post crap all the time, and played with some consideration towards their fellow players. And/Or they spent just a moment of their time to check what they are are about to say is in fact true, or state clearly it is a guess if they can't check. (latter is generally in regards to the game mechanics)
*Ok maybe not, but I can't ever recall having a go at somone who didn't deserve it. So if people stopped doing things to deserve it, then I'd automatically stop having a go at them as a result. See how that works.
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July 7th, 2012, 09:12 AM
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Re: The Joys of Overzealous Moderators
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Posted at the behest of Calahan;
So I see some of my critics are coming out of the woodwork on Shrapnal now that it's safe to have a go at me just because I can't respond to them directly (how brave of them). Can someone do me a favour and offer my critics this challenge...
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This from the guy who has created a thread exclusively to make fun & take cheap shots at the posters of other forums. Pot, kettle, black. It's not fun being on the other side, right?
Take a step out of your shoes and think about how you can improve your attitude. It's not too late to change. It's called empathy.
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The Calahan Challenge - Find any post where I've insulted someone that HASN'T been either a direct result of that person posting misinformation, talking nonsense, or trying to defend suspect playing behaviour (such as cheating/move-blocking/bailing etc). Or that person having a history of doing any and all of the aforementioned things .
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And this is where you are, and have always been wrong. If you did this in RL you would get a black eye most often than not. As this is the internet, you only get a ban.
If someone makes a mistake, you are welcome to correct him/her, but not insult & belittle. You go too far.
Seriously, grow up. I'm sure there is an intelligent & kind guy behind all that posturing, you do unselfish stuff as admining games for newbies after all. But you are not a unique snowflake: the world doesn't evolve around your personal peeves & dislikes, you are the one who has to be flexible & adapt to living in society, and not everybody else adapt to your very particular ways.
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July 7th, 2012, 09:15 AM
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Re: The Joys of Overzealous Moderators
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If someone makes a mistake, you are welcome to correct him/her, but not insult & belittle. You go too far.
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Exactly. I'm starting to think that banning him was not a bad idea.
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July 7th, 2012, 07:31 AM
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Re: The Joys of Overzealous Moderators
Is it really necessary to insult someone for being incorrect? Especially since being incorrect in this case refers to a game.
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July 7th, 2012, 09:57 AM
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Re: The Joys of Overzealous Moderators
Cant we all just get along? There are two boards and they are both wonderful, marvelous, fantastic.
They get about the same amount of posting traffic.
They both serve a function.
They both have a user base who seems happy with it.
And, they are both, wonderful examples of what results from their policies.
People keep stating things about one or the other loudly as if they are arguing. I dont see a lot of error in anything that is being said about either board. The other side might not WORD it quite that way and make it sound like more of that boards advantage but that isnt really arguing is it?
There is no reason to try and get either one to operate like the other one. And no need to try and convince them that they should be unhappy with their forum. Everything has its pros and cons. So as long as (A) both boards allow guest viewing and (B) both boards allow the mention of the other board, then people will be able to find the one that fits their preferences. The end result will be decided by Internet Democracy at its finest (usage).
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