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September 30th, 2008, 12:42 AM
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Re: Smoke vs buildings
AFAIK lots of smoke shells actually contain small quantities of WP so it might be same same
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September 30th, 2008, 07:59 AM
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Re: Smoke vs buildings
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I asked the question because I vaguely remember reading somewhere that the Russians used smoke shells (which are incendiary by nature) to set fire to buildings during the Chechnya War, especially during the Battle of Groznyy - which I played as a random battle the other day.
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Sure they're not talking about WP? Reporters are rather notorious for giving out the wrong details
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I can’t remember how reliable my source was - as I said. It could have been a news reporter (i.e. unreliable) or it may have been a defence journal or Russian eyewitness account. The Russians certainly used WP in Groznyy. And, as Marek has pointed out, their smoke shells probably contained white phosphorus as well.
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September 30th, 2008, 09:19 AM
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Re: Smoke vs buildings
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Originally Posted by redcoat2
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Originally Posted by Listy
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Originally Posted by redcoat2
I asked the question because I vaguely remember reading somewhere that the Russians used smoke shells (which are incendiary by nature) to set fire to buildings during the Chechnya War, especially during the Battle of Groznyy - which I played as a random battle the other day.
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Sure they're not talking about WP? Reporters are rather notorious for giving out the wrong details
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I can’t remember how reliable my source was - as I said. It could have been a news reporter (i.e. unreliable) or it may have been a defence journal or Russian eyewitness account. The Russians certainly used WP in Groznyy. And, as Marek has pointed out, their smoke shells probably contained white phosphorus as well.
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WP nades would be great in game, i'll try to make one, i guess that infantry flame is the class
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September 30th, 2008, 03:01 PM
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Re: Smoke vs buildings
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Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP
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Originally Posted by redcoat2
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Sure they're not talking about WP? Reporters are rather notorious for giving out the wrong details
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I can’t remember how reliable my source was - as I said. It could have been a news reporter (i.e. unreliable) or it may have been a defence journal or Russian eyewitness account. The Russians certainly used WP in Groznyy. And, as Marek has pointed out, their smoke shells probably contained white phosphorus as well.
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WP nades would be great in game, i'll try to make one, i guess that infantry flame is the class
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You could probably achieve the desired effect by just changing the class of the basic grenade to "Infantry Flame."
Also of note, the napalm class for aircraft isn't ruled by the 1 hex to the rear distance restriction that bombs and cluster munitions are (ie, if you make a bomb or cluster bomb using either of the relevant classes it will always drop behind the aircraft). What this means is that you can set napalm weapons to range +1 and actually get incendiary rockets, etc, with the napalm effects.
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September 30th, 2008, 07:08 PM
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Re: Smoke vs buildings
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Originally Posted by redcoat2
I can’t remember how reliable my source was - as I said. It could have been a news reporter (i.e. unreliable) or it may have been a defence journal or Russian eyewitness account. The Russians certainly used WP in Groznyy. And, as Marek has pointed out, their smoke shells probably contained white phosphorus as well.
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WP nades would be great in game, i'll try to make one, i guess that infantry flame is the class
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You could probably achieve the desired effect by just changing the class of the basic grenade to "Infantry Flame."
Also of note, the napalm class for aircraft isn't ruled by the 1 hex to the rear distance restriction that bombs and cluster munitions are (ie, if you make a bomb or cluster bomb using either of the relevant classes it will always drop behind the aircraft). What this means is that you can set napalm weapons to range +1 and actually get incendiary rockets, etc, with the napalm effects.
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Yeah, i play around the OOBs all the time i have a new idea
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October 2nd, 2008, 02:21 AM
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Re: Smoke vs buildings
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Yeah, i play around the OOBs all the time i have a new idea
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Let us know how that works out. FYI I believe there are several "flame" genades in winSPWWII, Germany comes to mind, but I haven't the game here to check.
This may interest you-Einstossflammenwerfer 46
http://www.geocities.com/Augusta/817...1.htm#einstoss
Bob out
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October 2nd, 2008, 04:05 AM
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Re: Smoke vs buildings
There are also "fire bombs" in SP:MBT - check for example the Demolition Teams for the country red. And amongst Insurgent Bands in the same OOB you can find Molotov Cocktails.
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October 2nd, 2008, 09:40 AM
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Re: Smoke vs buildings
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There are also "fire bombs" in SP:MBT - check for example the Demolition Teams for the country red. And amongst Insurgent Bands in the same OOB you can find Molotov Cocktails.
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There are fire bombs, gasoline bombs, whatever bombs, tb grenades, He/flame rockets, i'll just play around a bit
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October 3rd, 2008, 08:17 PM
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Re: Smoke vs buildings
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October 4th, 2008, 11:00 AM
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Re: Smoke vs buildings
Isnt there a bug with infantry flame causing 999 PEN against vehicles?
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