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Old June 16th, 2009, 04:21 PM
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Then why between 3 and 4 the APC gets damaged or destroyed?
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Old June 16th, 2009, 06:50 PM
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Then why between 3 and 4 the APC gets damaged or destroyed?
As said previosly Suhiirs powers of observation seem good to me (FOO training, recon or a sniper rifle if you can hit stuff might have used those skills better)

Without seeing or a more blow by blow acount how are we supposed to answer that?
If the squad is succesful as said its still unpinned so concievably can keep assaulting till run out of shots though I have never seen that. Twice maybe which goes back to my are there 2 squads? Multiple vehicles could concievably be taken out if Ranger Eng with a DC due to splash.
Ask your opponent after its over but I have to ask why after finding infantry the hard way are you piling more units in to there death knowing he probably has friends.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 07:21 PM
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I just ran a very quick test game. BMP VS single Ranger squads. In almost every case, the BMP runs up to the ranger, The ranger op fires on the BMP, inf unloads and gets slaughtered then the ranger assaults the BMP killing it.

Very ugly for the Russians.

Re-ran with reg US squaddies - same results but a few more Russian infantry survived
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I just ran a very quick test game. BMP VS single Ranger squads. In almost every case, the BMP runs up to the ranger, The ranger op fires on the BMP, inf unloads and gets slaughtered then the ranger assaults the BMP killing it.

Very ugly for the Russians.

Re-ran with reg US squaddies - same results but a few more Russian infantry survived
Since the Rangers have better base experience and morale I'm not the least suprised they're more effective.
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Old June 17th, 2009, 01:11 PM
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Suhir,
Good analysis. The Rangers are real "bad boys". Given their higher than avg morale and experience they must be significantly more expensive than regular infantry?
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Old June 16th, 2009, 08:23 PM
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but I have to ask why after finding infantry the hard way are you piling more units in to there death knowing he probably has friends.
I have my reasons.
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well if you have your reasons send in a company. eventually they will overcome the ranger squad especially after they are out of AT-Weapons.
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What I'd like to know is the rationale behind the infantry squad dismounting before the vehicle is assaulted. This does not seem consistent with their behaviour whenever their vehicle is fired upon at other times.
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For normal purposes i.e greater range if the transport survives the shot its up to you the player to decide the course of action, stay on board or bail.
At close range take it as they either see it coming & bail just before its assulted or try getting out while its in progress. Probably represents more the second despite the mechanics.
Do not take as correct but I have definetly had infantry unload remain relativly intact & had an assualt aborted message or something like. I think sequence of events is
Squad unloads assulting unit fires at squad, if it can squad fires back then if still able the unit assualts.
Try running up against a crew or unit that used its full movement last go the attacker might take casulties.
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or try getting out while its in progress. Probably represents more the second despite the mechanics.
Good enough for me. Kinda explains why they pretty much always get torn to shreds, too.
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