What's the formula for penetration?

[Tyrant]

Allright, for most everything in the game the formula is
stat + 2d6 open ended vs stat + 2d6 open ended, but what is the offensive stat for penetration vs magic resist? I know there are items that give bonuses, but surely there is some base number and it is not penetration bonus + dr vs magic resist + dr, is it?

[Chazar]

I dont know by heart, but I am pretty sure that the formula is either already within the Dom2 manual itself or within liga's manual addenda which can be obtained through various links given in the sticky threads...

[ckfnpku]

P. 16 §6.4.4 of the manual. The penetration value is (11+((magic skill of mage in relevant path-magical skill level needed for spell)/2)+2d6oe). Compare to resistance value: (mr+((the targets skill in relevant path(the path of the spell being resisted))/2)+2d6oe). Pen-value > res-value = ouch. For spells affecting the entire battlefield, use 7 instead of 11 for pen value.


I just got the game, so I read this yesterday

[Peter Ebbesen]

The really interesting question is whether penetration bonus from items stack or not, and if they do stack, how? (Given that stacking of abilities in Dominions 2 often appears to be handled ad hoc). In other words, if a mage has a Rune Smasher (+2) in hand and wears a Ring of Sorcery (+1) and a Ring of Wizardry (+1), is his penetration bonus +2 (highest modifier), +3 (+1 modifier set and +2 modifier set) or +4 (sum of all modifiers)

[Zen]

Sum of all Modifiers, but it applies the same rule of all magic items that same items won't stack. So you can't use 2 Spell Foci to get +4 then a Rune Smasher for an additional 2.

It shouldn't be that uncommon to see Nature and Astral casters with some of those equipped.

[Tyrant]

Thanks ckfnpku (if that is your real name, ahem), i could not find that even before i lost my copy of the manual.

[Zooko]

Okay, so what does it mean that "Magic resistance negates easily" the spell of Curse of Stones?

[Zooko]

Oh, I guess "Magic resistance negates easily" just means it is a battlefield-wide spell.

[Alneyan]

"Magic resistance negates easily" gives a bonus of +4 for the magic resistance check (Pocus let me know about the "easily" part, so direct all praise towards him, and any blame as well).