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[llamabeast]

I think he was just saying that even with good samurai, Jomon would be poor. For instance, perhaps they need better magic.

[kianduatha]

Originally Posted by llamabeast

I think he was just saying that even with good samurai, Jomon would be poor. For instance, perhaps they need better magic.

The funny part is, Jomon even has good magic. It's just underwater and super-expensive(Ryujin are for the record absurdly expensive for what they are). And their normal mages are mapmove 1, which frankly doesn't even make sense.

Jomon has all the tools it needs, it just isn't at the right place at the right time.

For instance, they get the ability to bootstrap Death from nothing. Unfortunately you need a swamp, a lucky double random, and Conj-6 Const-6 before you can do anything worthwhile with it(I guess you could spring for a Robe of Water or something, but that's even more in the Water-gem hole). Nushi would be awesome at Conj-4 with 2 death instead of 1(to immediately start summoning Shura).

Similarly, Jomon's national dragon summon is awesome in concept but absolutely terrible in practice. One misc slot, lowish protection(especially in LA), poor magic, and low native offensive skills make these things just plain useless. Now, that could easily be changed to give them some more offensive flexibility.

Jomon as is has a lot of issues, but they also have many ways of tweaking those issues. Their recruitable mages should probably retain the same magic(though Ryujin and Monks of the Fivefold Path need at least price decreases), and their magic paths can be boosted up with summons.

[chrispedersen]

I'd like to see pangeae get Lord of Rebirth as a pretender.
Oddly enough it would be nice to give mictlan some pretenders as well. Something to compete with the std bless chassis.

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

Something to compete with the std bless chassis.

God, what a disgusting visual.

[Snowcat]

Originally Posted by Sombre

God, what a disgusting visual.

The aforementioned Mictlan's new national Pretender with an >STD< bless:

The Old Man of Festering Fertility

The Old Man of Festering Fertility is dirty old man, a black sorceror whose corruptedness and amorality were so great that it pleased the darker demons of the underworld to an extensive degree. The demons decided to afflict the old man with a blessing of Festering Fertility. Part of him is now in a constant state of rot while remaining vigorously alive. The Pretender is able to pass his bless to his holy followers through direct contact. The Festering Fertility causes the blessed ones slight madness, gluttony and unquenchable burning desire, which also drives them to go berserk in battles. It also keeps all his holy followers to be constantly diseased and regenerated in the same time.
The maddening desires of the Old Man fuel his magical power to an extent which allows him to approach godhood.
If his wickedness is not stopped, the world will surely become a vile place to live in.