Mod: CBM 1.8 released

[WraithLord]

Originally Posted by Soyweiser

NOOOOO! Use Emacs. .

(But we are getting offtopic).

I was wondering, 10 dgems for tarts, or less, if they get a cost reduction. Would you ever use Bane Lords? (apart from being available earlier in the game).

Excuse me. Vim is *the* best editor. It also easily handles diffs

To topic, Tarts should cost more, say 20D gems but remove all nerfs except non-gored (and if possible can't heal afflictions).
To the "crazy" trait lovers a compensation can be made to lower the craze frequency to say 5%.

Edit: re. hammers. Players got used to them and so could afford "wasteful" thug/SC builds using tons of gems via hammers.
In CBM 1.8 world some tough choices would be required re. equipment for thugs. However, I think thugs would still be valid. I know, I'd deploy them happily, they'd just be leaner and more tailor made for the job.
Much like tarts, this has a lot to do with Psychology and "fashion". The natural first psych. response to no hammers is to think "Fuxk that. I'm not wasting gems on these stupid thugs". I think this will change a bit with 1.8 and over time thugs and SCs would be more common again (but probably not as in a hammer world).
Tarts were public enemy #1 b/c everyone loved them. This is doesn't mean that they should be nerfed to oblivions. The reason being thematic rather than pure balance.

[NooBliss]

Originally Posted by WraithLord

To topic, Tarts should cost more, say 20D gems but remove all nerfs except non-gored (and if possible can't heal afflictions).
To the "crazy" trait lovers a compensation can be made to lower the craze frequency to say 5%.

While the idea itself is good, give it some thought: you will spend 100 death gems and 5 mageturns to summon 4 meat shields and one commander (or not, if you're unlucky).
And that commander is likely to be a feeble-minded, armless, uncurable Monstra.

Or is there something I dont understand?

[WraithLord]

You could also get a 5S3B monster or some such. You never know

The 20D gems was just an idea. Anything between 15-20 would work IMO.