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Old March 3rd, 2017, 07:11 AM
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THE v11 UPGRADE IS NOW AVAILABLE !

http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Camo_Wo.../MBT_page.html
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Ehhm.. SKIF ATGM UKRAINE has 255 Penetration.. is it normal?
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Old March 3rd, 2017, 02:18 PM
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Ehhm.. SKIF ATGM UKRAINE has 255 Penetration.. is it normal?
These are the stats (and name) that weapon should be using.



There are NO plans to pull the installer and re-issue everything for one minor Ukrainian ATGM so anyone who's really interested and doesn't PBEM can change it themselves with MOBHack. Then run the OOB ( obat079 ) through the cost calculator.

Anyone who's not interested can ignore this
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Many thanks for the latest patch and all the work that has gone into it. The new maps are a huge improvement, really very much better.

My own disappointments with it in regard to British Forces are:

Lack of the new marksmen's rifle in Royal Marine and Para Platoons (these blokes get everything first) and they got that ahead of the infantry too.

Perhaps the oddest one is the continuing use of the SA80 and LSW in SAS and SBS units (UK SF have never, ever, used either weapon and the LSW weapon is no longer used by any British regular Infantry, Para or Royal Marines units. It was always unpopular largely due to its magazine placement, under the weapon). Incidentally, while the thing about British Special Forces being strategic deep recce troops is true enough, in British campaigns (Falklands, Gulf 1 and 2, Sierra Leone, Afghan etc) some British Special Forces are normally made available to the British senior officer in theater, for local use. Examples being the pebble Island raid in 1982 and the joint British and Australian SAS raid on the Iraqi's in the second Iraq War. Would a Lt. Col. command them, probably not, but a Brig. Gen might, occasionally.

No increase from six to eight tubes on UK infantry mortar platoons.

No increase from one to two Warrior IFV in a Company HQ section in British Armoured Infantry Companies.

No 5 inch gun Naval Gunfire Support from C.2023 when the first type 26 Frigates will be available.

I actually put in a fair bit of effort to try to get this stuff right, so I am, myself, a bit disappointed, but, again, good patch, thanks for all the hard work. I will just have to get to work on mobhack.

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My own disappointments with it in regard to British Forces are:

[**snip many disappointments**]

No increase from six to eight tubes on UK infantry mortar platoons.
Well now that's interesting as the British Army website say's

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each battalion having a mortar platoon with three OR four sections; and each section deploying two mortars.
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but nobody seems to want to part with the vital information about when this blessed event occurred and that is something the error ferrets like to call us on so if anyone has good solid information about when all this may have started...please do share it with us.


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My own disappointments with it in regard to British Forces are:

[**snip many disappointments**]

No increase from six to eight tubes on UK infantry mortar platoons.
Well now that's interesting as the British Army website say's

Quote:
each battalion having a mortar platoon with three OR four sections; and each section deploying two mortars.
emphasis mine

but nobody seems to want to part with the vital information about when this blessed event occurred and that is something the error ferrets like to call us on so if anyone has good solid information about when all this may have started...please do share it with us.


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This is a result of the vile SDR 2010, that gutted a large amount of the British Armed Forces, due to a combination of corrupt Bankers and a Conservative-Liberal democrat Government that did a 'Defence Review' that had nothing whatever to do with defence and everything to do with saving money.

So many British battalions were cut that 8 X 81mm mortar tubes was easy to do. That's it...
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Congratulations... the patch hasn't been out and hour and you found the first mistake in an obscure Ukrainian ATGM. That's quite a talent you have.

I'm thinking that was supposed to be 90 ended up being a mistype 900 and the game "corrected" it the highest number allowed which is 255, Then we missed that in the final check
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Thanks a lot Don & Andy!
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Old March 3rd, 2017, 09:38 AM
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Both games by the numbers.....( March 2017 )



winSPMBT OOB's contain 36,555 units --winSPMBT units contain 68 individual unit data entries per unit
There are 16,539 formations in winSPMBT and each of those has 20 data points
There are 15,611 weapons listed in winSPMBT. ...each of those has 13 data points

winSPMBT DATA BITS

UNITS
36,555 X 68 = 2,485,740 bits of data
FORMATIONS
16,539 X 20 = 330,780 bits of data
WEAPONS
15,611 X 13 = 202,943 bits of data

TOTAL bits of data in winSPMBT's OOB's
2,485,740 + 330,780 + 202,943 = 3,019,463

Three Million, Nineteen Thousand, Four Hundred and Sixty Three



winSPWW2 OOB's contain 12,566 units
winSPWW2 contains 60 individual unit data entries per unit

There are 6,979 formations in winSPWW2 and each of those has 20 data points
There are 4,828 weapons listed in winSPWW2 ...each of those has 13 data points

winSPWW2 DATA BITS

UNITS
12,566 x 60 = 753,960
FORMATIONS
6,979 x 20= 139,580
WEAPONS
4,828 X 13 = 62,764

TOTAL bits of data in winSPWW2
753,960 + 139,580 + 62,764 = 956,304

Nine Hundred and Fifty-Six Thousand Three Hundred and Four

Total Data bits in both games


3,019,463 + 956,304 = 3,975,767

THREE MILLION NINE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY-FIVE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND SIXTY-SEVEN

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Default Re: winSPMBT V11 upgrade for 2017

Quick question, according to the site the latest patch is for those who have v10b from 2016.
I double checked mine and while it is 10, it is from 2015, at least according to the info showing.
Are they the same versions?
The 10b consolidation patch says it is for several previous versions of the game but nothing about regular 10 (2015).
I am probably missing something so I rather ask here than do something which will damage the installation.
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